VegasUnderworld.com

The most complete guide to Southern Nevada's mining history.

 
Updates every Thursday.

February 4, 2016
Last call!  We are hosting another field trip this coming Saturday.  Details are in links above and in weekly updates below.

Some have asked what transportation, meals, and equipment are provided.  Absolutely nothing is provided. These trips are no different than inviting others to join you on your day trips.  If you don't have a vehicle capable of safely traveling off road, there are usually empty seats available.  Don't show up and expect someone to make room for you.  You have to arrange transportation in advance. 

I used to have plenty of equipment to loan out, but some of this equipment doesn't always get returned and now I'm finding myself short on basic things like flashlights.  If I've loaned you equipment in the past, please return it. Please, bring your own equipment which is outlined in the links below.  Additionally, make sure you bring your own water and food.  If you are bringing guests, make sure they are equipped.  

If we get to the underground portion of the tour and you don't even have the most basic helmet, please don't make me the jerk if I call you out on it.  The equipment list has been there for almost two years and there are constant reminders leading up to these events.  Since this topic and links have been in the weekly updates for over a month now, hopefully, this won't be an issue.

Basic Equipment Check
http://www.vegasunderworld.com/Field_Trip.php

For those owning their own communications radios, we'll be operating on:
UHF 467.725 simplex.

I'm sure you've all noticed all the new snow this past week.  We won't be cancelling the trip no matter the weather, but since trail conditions have likely deteriorated from their already bad conditions, we may have to reevaluate our expectations.  We'll still get out there, but we may not get as far or reach the intended goals.   This long day may be much shorter than anticipated.

We'll see you all this weekend. 
Saturday. February 6th, 2016
North Ivanpah.

   
January 28, 2016
Can you believe it's been that long?  Thirty years ago in 1986, the Space Shuttle Challenger launched from the Kennedy Space Center in Florida and exploded killing all seven astronauts on board.  We've had far greater tragedies since then, but that event is one of those "Do you remember where you were?" moments in life.  

I was in 7th grade in North Florida.  Our teacher let us stand outside during the launch.  We were too far to hear it, but close enough to see the launch trail.  Shortly after, that single trail became two.  We were too young to process what we saw, but our teacher quickly had us back in the classroom.  Shortly after, an announcement was made over the PA.

A couple weeks ago, I mentioned adjustments and clarifications to the group event rules.  Last week, I made a comment in response to an email complaint about the "No drugs" rule.  That update hit a nerve with some people, so let me clarify my position on drugs.  After the trip and on your time, you feel free to do what you want.  When we host these events, we're entrusted with your safety.  This "No drugs" rule is not a moral judgement.  It's a safety issue and nothing more.  

Next Saturday is our trip to North Ivanpah.  As mentioned previously, the off road portion of this trip will be about 50 miles.  The route will have us returning to the same spot we'll be departing pavement.  If you have a UTV with that kind of range, it's supposed to be a beautiful day. 

New images have been added to the  Kirby Mine in the Goodsprings, Nevada directory.

 
January 21, 2o16
Since our last update, I've received a couple emails asking about our updated waivers of liability.  As mentioned in the previous update, we've always had rules in place, but some were recently rewritten for clarity.  Others were added because, sadly,  common sense isn't as common as it used to be.  This pains me that it was necessary, but I had to add a rule explaining that it is not acceptable to get high on these trips.  I guess to some people, being in nature makes them want to hit the pipe.

Some were upset about having to sign waivers although I've never asked anyone to sign anything.  I don't know where they got the impression I was asking for permission slips.  As has always been stated in the waivers, if you attend these events, your presence is an acceptance of these event rules and waivers of liability which can be found under the "Mine Safety" navigation bar to your left and on every event announcement page.

It's always great to meet new people and we encourage you to invite others you feel would benefit or benefit from the group.   If you bring a guest, these parts  involve you directly:

"...it is solely the responsibility of all attendees to ensure their guests are made aware of and accept these terms.  ".

"If you bring a guest, be responsible for your guest.  "

If they are a close enough friend for you to invite,  I'll assume you have their email address.  It only takes a few seconds to forward them an email link.  If you bring a guest, you are essentially vouching for them and trust in their judgement.  Let's not have a "What were you thinking?" conversation later.

We're expecting a large group on the 6th.  I've amended the event itinerary  prior to departure to go through these rules and waivers, but please make sure you and your guests are somewhat familiar with them in advance.  There's nothing written into the rules and waivers that is unreasonable.  If you feel strongly against something written into the rules and waivers, this and all events are voluntary.  

This has nothing to do with the topic.  I just didn't want to have another weekly update without some color, so...look!  Bats!


January 14, 2016
I'll be giving reminders of our scheduled event each week until just before the trip on February 6th.  I also wanted to remind everyone that we do have a set of rules and waivers  in place for all events.   These rules have always been in place, but were recently rewritten for clarity. You can find them at the bottom of every event page. The gist of it is, these trips are inherently dangerous and participation and attendance is an agreed acceptance that you assume those risks. If you bring a guest, it is your responsibility to make sure they have read and agree to these terms.  I'll bring a few copies with me if anyone would like a printed copy.  Please, read and review them.

The plan for this event is to end with underground exploration of Taylor and Lizzie Bullock Mines, but that would depend on timing.  We already have a route planned, but the sun sets earlier in the mountains.   If we make those mines our first stop, we won't have time to reach the furthest areas.  It made more sense to route us furthest out and make our way back.

I know it doesn't matter if the sun has set when you're in a mine, but large groups of vehicles traveling on dusty trails during the day is an inconvenience.  At night, even the brightest off road lighting will reflect off the dust from the vehicle(s) ahead of you.  Visibility drops to several feet and it's dangerous. Round trip, the off road portion of this event will be about 50 miles.   Our goal is to complete all 50 miles and return to pavement before sunset. 

We'll do our best to keep us on schedule without rushing the group. Be prepared for underground exploration, but be aware that we may run out of daylight and may have to skip that or other portions of the event.   Not including stops, this will be 50 miles at school zone speeds.  This will be a long day.
 
January 7, 2016
Happy New Year, everyone!  I've never really been a New Year resolution kind of guy.  I never saw the point of waiting for a date to try to be a better person.  It's not at all that I think I have no room for improvement.  I think it's mostly that I've accepted that I've already seen my best day.  

I guess I could begin this years site update with a confession.  Maybe "clarification" would be a better description since a confession implies a wrong.  I try to present the site information as a reference and not as a time sensitive article.  For that reason, I often write our trip reports as generic as I can so someone visiting the site for the hundredth time will read updates as if it's their first. 

Most that know us personally or those who were regulars to the forum would know that the weekly site updates don't always represent our timeline for that week.  Most often, the weekly updates are where we were that week, but sometimes, there is a lag.  We keep a reserve of updates in queue in the event we don't get out for various reasons like weather or scheduling. 

I'm bringing this up now because I think some believe the updates represent our exploration schedule.  We may have hurt some feelings by not inviting others on days when we didn't go out, but they think we did.

Take this weeks update for instance.   New images have been added to the Coliseum Mine gallery in the Ivanpah, California directory, but we weren't there this week.  However, it will be one of the featured mines in our upcoming Field Trip on February 6.  See you then!

 
Previous updates have been added to the Archives.
 
The trails to these mines are unpaved and not maintained.  Many require technical driving skills and  custom off road vehicle parts. High clearance,  four wheel drive vehicles with off road tires are recommended and, in some cases, necessary. 

Please, use the land safely and responsibly. Enjoy the pictures, but STAY OUT of the mines.In some instances, permission from the land or claim owner was obtained or contracted prior to entering a secured area. Some interior mine images were captured prior to safety barrier installation. Do not alter mine safety devices and/or barriers.

Mining sites are inherently dangerous, and historical mining sites can be very hazardous to one's health and well being. You should not enter or approach a mine without proper training or rock climbing safety equipment. 

Every attempt is made to provide accurate information, but occasionally depictions are inaccurate by error of mapping, navigation or cataloging. Images presented are unedited with the exception of size for site speed and the occasional paranormal apparition I edit in to mess with the ghostbusters. The information on this site is provided without any warranty, express or implied, and is for informational and historical purposes only.
 
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